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microscope. the future. thanks for joining r.t. it's half past the hour now and these are your headlines the turkish prime minister a visit small scale for syria crisis talks about russia and turkey time opposing views on how to bring peace to the war torn country this is very much reflected in the u.n. which votes later today on just what to do. with the olympics private security firm proving incompetent u.s. agents are now being flown in the employ of the posts at british airports all the u.k. is forced to draft in thousands of troops to make up the numbers. and very king agent
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h.s.b.c. is tied to terrorist cash as washington reports the lenders money laundering help saudi arabia groups finance terror h.s.b.c. is also accused of handling drug cartel cash and ignoring sanctions. for now on the recent election in libya the results of the foreign intervention into the country's uprising that's in our special interview. as libya continues its long march towards democracy militant rivalry talks session and continued outbreaks of violence opposing major challenges we're joined now by spike magazine journalist patrick case even extensively about libya and about what's been going on historic moments for libya really all we going to see the any concrete changes i think it should have been the story moments i mean what we what we've seen with the elections is the first time the libyan people have been able to
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express their voice and talk about who they want to be elected for the first time in fifty years since nine hundred sixty five should have been the story the moment it should have been the outcome of the struggle the logical outcome of the arab spring in libya last year unfortunately what we see with these elections is that this struggle for democracy this march towards democracy to talk about it has effectively been spy western intervention over the past year or so the election itself has been administered by the national transitional council which was effectively cherry picked by the west rather the than actually selected by the libyan people it's an unelected body and there have been a lot of disagreements has been a lot of protests over the past nine ten months by the libyan people who are unhappy with the lack of transparency from this government there are unhappy with the fact that the transitional council does not represent their views or the people
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they want to be in power and they're also unhappy with the way in which the election has been planned and the seats for the national council have been allocated a large proportion of them being allocated to tripoli and the west of libya i would touch on the problems that that's causing in a moment be said in your latest article titled libyan election on. what do you mean were it not for nato intervention last year i think these elections should really have been something to celebrate the libyan people taking the democratic initiative overthrowing the tyrant gadhafi who was in charge for forty two years and they were starting to do that last year were it not for a haphazard intervention led by nicolas sarkozy in france and david cameron the u.k. prime minister who decided to step in and in the name of humanitarian justice intervene in the in the in the way in which
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a sovereign country was being administered by gadhafi and to really kind of forge a wedge between the people fighting the civil war and. cronies that cause real problems because it meant that first starts with the transitional council that was set up last february in two thousand and eleven the whole time that the war in libya took place they were all into it towards getting western approval for their actions the national transitional council weren't even in libya broadly during the uprising there in qatar they are in the united arab emirates they're inching this year they were flying around the world making deals with western. governments that might make sense in some ways but the thing that they forgot to do and this was the real issue and you see this happening in syria now is to get the mandates of the libyan people to engage with them and to be oriented towards offering leadership to them rather than convincing the west in particular that they are the
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right people to lead so what you happens following the fall of the. transitional council who are affected me helicoptered in later actually because the rebels took tripoli bye bye bye store much faster than expected you had a vacuum in libya with a transitional council that did not represent the will or the kind of the ideas and feel. of the libyan people in general and there has been this really strange moment since there have been any other way of avoiding that. i think the way that power vacuum could have been avoided would have been to not have had a western intervention in march last you know the real had been a western intervention libya wouldn't be this point right now they wouldn't be having their. election we're just seeing democratic elections in egypt we've seen elections in june this year there's no reason why the libyan people couldn't have also brought about change by themselves in fact i think it takes
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a very paternalistic mindset in the west that they have to step in and intervene and do this on behalf of the libyan people seen massive swathes of the army starting to defect from gadhafi and they're. sure a ragtag bunch of resistance kind of starting to step up and to challenge could have been different strongholds. particularly in benghazi it wasn't necessarily the case in the west needed to intervene the tool but in intervening in this is the democratic initiative from the libyan people they interfered with the struggle for leadership that struggle for the future battle of ideas for the future of libyan society which is necessary in the civil war to really unify and get here individuals so that they can so that they can bring about change which has to reflect their will rather than what the west nato in particular thinks is the best
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way towards a society the west has now moved on to other things i think. there's been a lot of turmoil in the bureau over the last few months and we've heard very little from. people who were very vocal last year so david cameron after the death of gadhafi said this is the opportunity for the libyan people to forge a strong democratic feature and i'm very proud of the way that britain has played a role in this but now there is silence. from david cameron from obama from hillary clinton from william hague foreign secretary in the u.k. people don't want to talk about it anymore partly because there's a lot of talk about using a loop in syria and they don't want to acknowledge the fact that what we have seen is effectively a very fragmented libya in the past six months is that a realistic possibility do you think i mean would a division of power in that way or is it going to cause trouble for where there is talk in benghazi and is in the eastern region i think it's very telling that
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the libyan people have started to reassure these kind of tribal role and also go back to these old boundaries and divisions because rather than actually having to struggle for democracy that unifying sense of comradeship that i idea that they've really put everything on the line to get rid of gadhafi and to bring about a new society the west effectively the country into democracy you saw this a lot over you know in the past year where you know the west would effectively bomb the rebels then when it was safe to come in go in and take that town and then they would move forward that was the kind of strategy so effectively the west handed this revolution and i say revolution in kind of almost scare quotes to the libyan people on a plate and it wasn't fair for them the democratic initiative from them it's also really was snapped process of proper leadership and a proper sense of how the country can be governing feature you mention the rebels
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there i mean militarily they weren't anywhere near the point where they would have been able to topple the regime. so in terms of that you know sort of with hindsight it's easy to criticize but again we come back to where we are now what's not and what we did with barack go in egypt we've seen this year bring about democracy there's no reason why. things couldn't have happened very very quickly and that was the remarkable thing about the arab spring no one sort coming within a short periods of just a couple of months people took the initiative and brought down regimes that were just seen for generations and generations of people in the middle east as being immoveable for the vast majority of people in libya they've never seen elections and anyone under the age of about sixty really probably going to remember life without having a few years ago and that was the same with mubarak and that was the same with ben ali. i mean things could moving very very quickly western intervention i think pretty much puts that struggle for democracy on ice in libya in
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a way that hasn't happened in egypt and tunisia you know i think there would have been a risk then even that with the syria style situation sort of that stalemate between the two sides and the death toll just keeps mounting i think there is a tendency of course from people and you saw this in benghazi as well when gadhafi troops were getting ever closer to benghazi and the death toll was rising the people of course do look for for anyone to help them they are desperate various points but the problem is when you continually have the idea of a crisis when you can call for effectively a guardian angels come in and help it does what the situation and things the west didn't necessarily make it better the death toll increased considerably after nato bombs started to fool in libya and the thirty thousand people died in the beer in past years during the uprising a lot of that was due to western intervention. wasn't a bloodless time once the west. actually intensified its and internationalize the conflict in
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a way that wouldn't have happened. for. one western intervention intensifies internationalize this is often brings about kind of greater bloodshed than if you leave the struggle to the people the democratic struggle to the people of the country selves i think we also need to think in terms of what comes next now there was never you know there were. never a plan for what happened in the post libya by by david cameron by obama it was very much you know obama reluctantly got involved and after less than a week really started to kind of go on the back foot the western leaders didn't have an idea of how they were going to restructure libya they didn't even want to talk about regime change when they first started. bombing libya so i think what i think we can learn from from the libyan situation is that western countries coming in and intervening to try and intervene even good heartedly in
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a humanitarian situation can really warp a country struggle for democracy educates thank you very much. one industry in the soviet union. not display our labor school. for the attempt to get a job with the web. one. fashion. but. for the silvia to be. a. little old started here before going global
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projects a free medio dog our teeth dog tom. paine turkish prime minister moses moscow for syria crisis talks about russia turkey have opposing views on how to bring peace to the war torn country this is very much reflected in the u.n. which votes later today on just what to do. with the olympics private security firm proving incompetent u.s. agents are now being flown in to manage posts have british airports all the u.k. has forced a draft and thousands of troops to make up the numbers. and banking giant h.s.b.c. is tied to terrorists cash as washington reports the lenders money laundering helped saudi arabian groups finance terror h.s.b.c. is also accused of handling drug cartel cash and ignoring sanctions. up
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next it's all the latest from the world of sports with anger. hello again thanks for watching and here's what is coming up over the next few minutes i was poisoned cyclist frank schleck claims he's innocent after failing a drug test at this year's torah from. class russia for borders by the appointment of fabio capello as their new coach. and golden goal brazil's footballers arriving in london aiming to win the olympic title for the very first time. but first one of the big names at this year's tour de france has failed a doping test frank schleck has been pulled out of this year's race after testing positive for a banned diuretic the thirty two year old from luxembourg wasn't drawn from the race wise radio shack team however schleck denies he took the substance and
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believes he may have been poisoned and is now asked for his bass sound or to be tested check was in twelve place before the incident and finished third overall last year and he's the second date in scandal to hit this year's tour de france after a french rider i mean because he'll failed a drug test a week ago. with just five days to go until the finish the race heads into the pier in this today and bradley wiggins will be looking to protect his two minute lead at the top of the standings his sky team mate here chris froome is second while italy's been chan's in the barley is a further twenty three seconds behind wiggins though as coolly as ever during yesterday's rest day although his rivals haven't written off their chances yet. i think we've proved that every race we've gone through this year across the board even when there's been other line ups and things like that. this team prides itself on racing as a team going out with a game plan and sticking to that game plan and working for each other really in every environment not just on the board but off the bike is where we support each
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other and i think i think that's one thing we've got over a lot of other teams or you. but i wanted it of you know that it was that it will be very difficult to win by the next two days is the mountains if there is a little crisis for her it is more likely that they will lose big time in the third week then in the first two weeks. in other news russian footballers have given their backing to fabby a capella who is set to become the new coach of the national side and in next few days the former england boss is expected to sign a two year deal with the russian football union and would take charge in time for russia's friendly against the ivory coast next month before world cup qualifiers against northern ireland and israel in september russia stars including guinea i've been here in of have backed his imminent appointment. you're going forward i think this is the correct decision and he's a great coach and one of the best around he's been in charge of england and top clubs around europe he's very experienced it will be great to work with him but you
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should share it with i don't really know what to think at the moment so many names will link with the job like capello is going to learn we'll just have to see what he's able to bring to the team and hopefully he'll help take russian football forward. meanwhile barcelona's new coach tito villanova says he will be relying heavily on their star manual messi in the upcoming season villanova is getting the squad ready for their clash with rival free on the grid in next month's spanish think pickup reale won the league last year but villanova believes he has the talent to claim the spanish title this time around. messi has a very special role in this team last season hugh scored a lot of goals hopefully he will score at least as many this season has progressed a lot of people had said he couldn't score with his left leg or his head but this is exactly what he does know he's more complete now he understands the game and he's the first to take on extra responsibility.
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now there are just nine days to go until the london games begin and the brazil football team have touched down in england in search of their first olympic title many brazilian fans were at heathrow airport to welcome their heroes despite the nation's glorious history they have never won olympic gold and are joint favorites for spain after picking and. seriously strong squad include sound for strike in a market twenty years old is one of the hottest talents in world football and eighty million front man alexander patio brazil will play the great britain side in a friendly on friday before starting a group c. campaign against egypt and using live. now the biggest name on the track maybe sprinter usain bolt but fellow jamaican blake looks like an increasing threat to the triple olympic champion he has just run nine point eight five in one hundred meters at a low key event in this in switzerland and says he's been on course for the olympics break from the fastest time of the year last month the jamaican trials is
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nine point seven five in one hundred meters beating bolton clocked nine point eight six he also be bold in the two hundred meters there the pair will go head to head in both of them in london. but whatever happens on the track oscar pistorius is guaranteed to get the headlines to he'll become the first double amputee to compete at the olympics nicknamed the blade runner the south african is to run in the four hundred meters and take part in the four by four hundred meter relay but even though he got silver in the relay at last year's world championships he doesn't rate his chances of a medal in the individual event. to make the finals going to be extremely tough. there's a big difference in qualifying from being at the top and the gods are running at the top running already you know forty four seconds which is the second coming off of a run on the four hundred and then probably going to sue repeats of the two thousand votes. for tom. to more than
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a different to going to be some phenomenal performances so he faces a tough challenge and so do athletes from the war torn somalia some of whom have literally risked their lives to be at the games sam's and. her son mohammed will represent their country in middle and long distance running but their path through lympics has been a struggle smalley's olympic president was blown up by a suicide bomber and with no real training facilities the athletes have had to get fit on the streets of mogadishu. well imagine when you live in a country that hasn't got a sports stadium we had no right to run ensuring except on the streets of mogadishu at a time when if writing was at its worst we still had to train and run good not very early in the morning running past roadblocks manned by armed militias sometimes the soldier on guard would mistake us for being so he said bombers or attackers and order us to stop or they would shoot sometimes the sawyers would stop us and then to tina strong periods which really affected our training schedule. an amazing
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story of what else where america's basketball players are about to kick start the european leg of their prelim paper tour the defending olympic champions that used to play host great britain a man just there on thursday before moving on to barcelona for two more exhibition matches but before leaving home they beat brazil eight hundred sixty nine in a friendly to send out a signal to their rivals at the london games however the us aren't writing off the south american side adding that other opponents too could cause an upset. i think brazil is a great chance to be in contention for a gold medal. we're going to play in a couple other teams in exhibitions. also will be there and seen and spain and wanting we will not face in the us we cross cross over to france they are france was tony parker waving them and all the n.b.a. players they have will be will be really good. while the men's usa basketball team
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might take all the headlines the country female team are actually bigger favorites to take gold they will go to london having won their last thirty three matches at the olympics and after their fifth straight gold medal they have arrived in manchester for a warm up game with host. it's always been one of the things that we worried about the most. you know we don't get much preparation so every time we get on the court we really have to make the most of it last night we're going to gain more so you know that helps us and going to go into the games all of the athletes are dreaming of getting a bare hands on a medal but there's little chance of that happening before the games start because they are being kept in a very safe place at the moment the tower of london in fact it is being used to it has been used for over six hundred years to house the crown jewels and seemed like the perfect place to put the three hundred two sets of medals before the olympics begin in just nine days time. is the safest in london it's iconic
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it's looked after precious jewels in the crown jewels for many many years and of course it's one of our host virus as well so it was an obvious choice. well golfer tiger woods has said he would love to represent his country when his sport makes its return to the lympics in twenty sixteen but for the moment he's got the more pressing issue of getting ready for this week's open the world number four has won the open three times before but it meets this year's course at royal lytham and st annes will not allow any room for error and warns players will have to be on their game from the very first tee when the opening round gets underway on thursday . it is different there's no doubt because we have to be precise rather gate. and had a ball a specific number normally it's an iron hybrid for i want our driver off the first team you can hit it basically distance you want and you're setting yourself up for the second shot but this is totally different and. psychologically it is different
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because yet to be on a game right away and you can't just you know hit a ball in the fairway any distance you want you have to have tapped at the ball a precise number and that is different than what we experience from you know week in week out. and that is a we've got time for for the moment. one industry in the soviet union. not display high leverage school. for the attempt to catch up with and past the west. one can easily be. gas for this. but. for the soviet people.
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